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hey everyone

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welcome to geo4hub webcast today's guest

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is going to be tracy farquhar

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she's a psychic medium and a channel and

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she co-authored a book called

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channeled messages from deep space with

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mike dooley and i'm going to talk to her

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about it today

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as always i'm going to let the guests

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get into their background information so

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let's get to it

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hi tracy thanks for being on how are you

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i'm great thanks for having me well i

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it took a long time to for me to finally

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connect with you

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but uh thanks to mike finally he sent me

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the book and

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i got done with whatever i needed to do

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so

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i wanted to get in touch with you and

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talk about the the book you do i've

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written together

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so if you could uh maybe tell me a

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little bit first about yourself

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and then i'd like to get into the book

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with you sure

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so um i have a business as a

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professional psychic medium

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i've been doing that full time for about

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seven or eight years i've been doing it

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in general for about 15 years

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it's not something i ever really had in

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mind to do with my life

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in fact i can't say that i had psychic

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experiences

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all my life but i was always extremely

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so you know i was told that i was too

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sensitive most of my life as though it

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um and then i just out of curiosity i

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took a

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course in psychic development um i grew

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up in a family that was very open to all

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of these things and

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had uh sisters who were pretty psychic

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so i had an interest in it but really no

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clue that i had any

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abilities until i took this course and

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started practicing some things and

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started to realize that my sensitivities

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a gift and that i could connect with

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energy

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so i started to do readings for people

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i still worked for full-time in a

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regular nine-to-five job

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um but after a while uh the universe

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shifted my life in such a way that this

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became my full-time work

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i was doing psychic readings for people

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which is connecting with their energy

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to give them some life guidance doing

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mediumship readings which are connecting

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usually for people who want to speak

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with loved ones who have passed

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and so i was doing that for quite a

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and had an experience of of channeling

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which i had never

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expected never intended um

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but it was just a series of events my my

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sister was visiting me we had a series

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of events where we started to feel like

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something wanted to contact us

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uh we uh my sister used to use the ouija

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board all the time

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you know to connect with spirit so we

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did that and it immediately started to

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spell

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f-r-a-n-k frank neither of us knew

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anybody named frank

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but it turned out that it was a

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collective of beings

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that wanted to connect through me with

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automatic writing which i had never done

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but they gave me instructions i tried it

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and i started getting all kinds of

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really uplifting amazing information

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from this collective who call themselves

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it was mostly personal to me but i also

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felt that there was also

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universal messages of hope and

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and love that were important

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and i asked them at that time if they

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wanted to write a book

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and they said no not at that time so

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i actually put it aside for a couple of

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years didn't channel for a couple of

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frank talk this is what it looks like

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and this was a self-published book

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that was just all whatever i got from

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so they talk about their lives their

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advice for us in what we're going

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in the meantime i had become a certified

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infinite possibilities trainer with mike

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and i knew that he was interested in

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channeling so i made sure he got a copy

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of my book

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he enjoyed a lot and we started to talk

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webinar together he would uh send me

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some questions and i would channel the

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answers and um

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with the channeling and from there then

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we decided to write the next book

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which is um originally called from deep

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space with love

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uh and then when it was published in

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paperback hay house changed the title so

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it was a clearer

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sense of it being channeled to channel

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messages from deep space

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that worked out great so um was any

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particular process and which way you two

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got together to to work on it

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would you write a little bit uh or at

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was it transcribed i should say then

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based on the questions he had or how did

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that work

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yeah so what happened was when you know

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excited about the first book he said do

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frank would answer some questions for me

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and i said sure so he sent me

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i remember it was 24 questions and

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you know from mike dooley these are not

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these were very deep questions and um

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and i remember sitting up when i would

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are you crazy you think you're

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channeling aliens what's wrong with you

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higher consciousness a little better so

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from him with this huge

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like 96 point font that said oh my god

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a fun adventure with him asking these

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so but we were doing it live for an

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glad that people do that because then

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one cohesive way and so that way then

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cohesive that way so i'm glad you guys

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uh first kind of was there kind of a

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general message of why specifically

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wasn't sure how that was going to work i

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sure what the meaning was until i

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what was this all about um then they

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eight beings it was a group

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in the universe in this dimension uh and

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on their planet and that they had turned

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always feels very loving they they

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always say how much they admire us and

289
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how much beauty we have in our world and

290
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um and so they they see what we can

291
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become

292
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you know and they see what we are as

293
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well and how we can expand that

294
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so it's always felt extremely positive

295
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and

296
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they've always said resonates with me

297
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deeply

298
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you know i don't think i would be able

299
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to channel it if it didn't

300
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and um so for example

301
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was there something that they just

302
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picked picked

303
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up the energy of humans is particularly

304
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of you

305
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that they they needed to convey

306
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something to you or

307
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was what was their reasoning for them

308
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reaching out

309
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well what they have said is that

310
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they have made it a practice for

311
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themselves to seek out

312
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uh other beings planets that need help

313
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so it wasn't just us they've they've

314
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helped others out or they have tried to

315
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they've also talked about having

316
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abandoned some of those

317
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attempts to help but when they found us

318
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and they just became very enamored of us

319
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and are the beauty of our planet and you

320
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know

321
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they think that they can again resonate

322
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with a lot of what we're going through

323
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um

324
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i think because they're a higher

325
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consciousness they can sense

326
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those who are particularly sensitive and

327
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would be able

328
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to pick up their energy you know so i i

329
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don't think i'm the only one that

330
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they're working with

331
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i think so you mean currently yes oh i

332
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see

333
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um but i i did have an experience

334
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probably uh a couple of years before

335
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they appeared

336
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which at the time i thought may have

337
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just been a dream but i don't think now

338
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that it was

339
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um where i was

340
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in in my bed at night and was woken up

341
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by a voice

342
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and uh

343
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i got this this amazing bright light

344
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coming in through my window

345
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and i had this sensation of being

346
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it and scanned it's very difficult to

347
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describe

348
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but it was like a pulse of energy that

349
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ran across me physically

350
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like three times it was very it was a

351
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really strong sensation it wasn't

352
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painful

353
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and i wasn't scared but it was very

354
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unusual

355
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and this bright light that coming

356
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through the window i i just

357
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you know when frank then appeared and i

358
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started channeling them

359
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i started to think um i wonder if that

360
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was them

361
00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:40,720
you know checking me out to see if i was

362
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in the right energetic space

363
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to receive them and um i'm kind of

364
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feeling like it was

365
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so i think that again because they're

366
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highly evolved

367
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consciously that they can sense

368
00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:54,880
you know those who are going to resonate

369
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with their message who are going to be

370
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open to it

371
00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:00,560
and be willing to convey it um and again

372
00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:02,880
i don't think it's just me

373
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so what was one of the first profound

374
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messages that they

375
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that they basically told you about well

376
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i think it was

377
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just them telling their story which was

378
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that you know their their planet was on

379
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the brink of disaster and

380
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things were falling apart and a lot of

381
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it was due to greed and

382
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mismanagement of resources and

383
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so many things that were so similar to

384
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us

385
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um and even though they described

386
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themselves as being

387
00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:34,320
very different in a lot of ways the

388
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planet being very different

389
00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,959
the the circumstances and the situations

390
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that they were in

391
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were similar um and

392
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that there was a core group that

393
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that saw that in order for them to

394
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survive they were going to have to make

395
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drastic changes in the way they treated

396
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each other and

397
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in their level of consciousness they had

398
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to move into that realm

399
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of understanding and working with

400
00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:00,880
consciousness

401
00:14:06,550 --> 00:14:04,560
instead of just the material world

402
00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:06,560
and once they started to do that they

403
00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:08,079
started to integrate

404
00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:11,279
science and spirituality you know that

405
00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:17,670
and it just feels so strongly that

406
00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:19,519
that's where we're heading as well

407
00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:22,240
so that to me is the whole reason that

408
00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,600
they're here

409
00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:25,519
and the you know the way that they are

410
00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:26,880
encouraging us

411
00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:29,600
in that direction it feels very profound

412
00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:30,720
and

413
00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:33,199
really almost essential for our survival

414
00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:35,120
as well

415
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:38,959
so how's their their general look have

416
00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,440
they ever

417
00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:41,680
ever revealed to you how did they look

418
00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:43,040
um or

419
00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:45,680
or are we talking about let's say

420
00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:47,279
they're formed like you know

421
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:48,560
i don't mean to i don't know how to say

422
00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,480
this that doesn't sound silly let's say

423
00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:51,920
looking like spiders but having a

424
00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:53,680
society like us yeah

425
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,040
what i mean yeah i they they did avoid

426
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:58,959
that for a while

427
00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:01,839
um but then there was i had an incident

428
00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,399
where

429
00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:05,519
um i was participating in

430
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:08,959
a meditation on a retreat and it was a

431
00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:09,920
very very

432
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:13,120
deep meditation and in the meditative

433
00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:13,839
state i

434
00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:16,000
had a vision and they showed themselves

435
00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:22,629
so i got a brief look at them

436
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,760
a couple days later after that happened

437
00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:28,320
i happened to be at a psychic fair where

438
00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:29,199
someone was

439
00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:31,759
displaying paintings that she had made

440
00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:33,199
intuitively

441
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,240
she was intuitive artist and one of the

442
00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:38,560
paintings was almost exactly

443
00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:41,279
what i had seen and it actually is the

444
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:42,079
cover of

445
00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:45,279
my first book so

446
00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:48,959
they look similar to that oh i see okay

447
00:15:53,749 --> 00:15:52,000
not exactly right but uh

448
00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,759
and this the woman who painted this

449
00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:55,600
painting said that she felt like it had

450
00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:57,680
been channeled to her

451
00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:59,759
so it was an amazing synchronous city i

452
00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,600
mean i i was floored when i stood in

453
00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:03,360
front of that painting and

454
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,040
and realized it was exactly what i had

455
00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:07,279
seen almost exactly

456
00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:10,560
that i had seen in that meditation so do

457
00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:11,440
they solely

458
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:14,000
simply reach out sort of in this um

459
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:15,440
metaphysical

460
00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:18,800
spiritual way uh where um i believe if

461
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:21,040
i'm if i'm not mistaken mike was

462
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:22,480
mentioning something about that they

463
00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,519
don't have

464
00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:25,440
ships or the ability to actually travel

465
00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:27,680
this far out

466
00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:31,040
yeah i i yeah i'm under the impression

467
00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:31,360
that

468
00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,279
they have

469
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:37,680
discovered that they can you know

470
00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,720
telepathically

471
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:40,560
communicate there's no need for them to

472
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,160
physically travel

473
00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:45,600
but they do say that other other uh

474
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:49,120
worlds other beings do travel and have

475
00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:52,320
been here and and are continuing to come

476
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:53,680
here so they have

477
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,279
verified that just not them

478
00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:59,279
would they have the ability to actually

479
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,199
materialize enough to where

480
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,160
they could kind of appear to us at least

481
00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:06,400
in operation form or is it solely

482
00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:10,559
through kind of uh this psychic way

483
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:13,360
yeah i haven't had that experience but i

484
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:13,760
have

485
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:21,120
live channeling events with audiences

486
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,799
where people have

487
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:25,120
not seen like a full-bodied apparition

488
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:26,640
or something but they have seen

489
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:29,360
lights they've seen streaks of lights

490
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:30,559
like orbs

491
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:33,520
so people have had some visual sense of

492
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,240
them

493
00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:36,160
just not really like it's not like a

494
00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:37,520
hologram you know

495
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,120
it's more like it's it's almost like

496
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:41,440
spirit energy appears sometimes as

497
00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:43,600
as orbs or lights or mist or something

498
00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:44,720
like that

499
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:47,679
um so but i haven't actually had that

500
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,270
and so could you maybe please uh

501
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,799
continue sharing some of the other

502
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:56,240
information they've given if you don't

503
00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:57,039
mind

504
00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,559
sure so they talk a lot about um

505
00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:02,240
you know all the changes that they had

506
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:04,559
to make and are continuing to make and

507
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,280
the resistance to those changes and you

508
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:09,840
know how difficult it was for them

509
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:13,280
to continue on in the midst of such

510
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,080
opposition

511
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:16,640
and resistance to change and again it's

512
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:18,640
something else that seems very resonant

513
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:19,039
with

514
00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,160
what we're going through right now um

515
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:24,559
it seems kind of a universal thing that

516
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,360
beings just

517
00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:27,919
don't like change and they get caught in

518
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,120
ways of doing things

519
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:31,120
even when they're harmful they don't

520
00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,320
want to change them

521
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,400
but they persisted to the degree that

522
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:36,640
you know they they really created

523
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,080
a whole new way of doing things that

524
00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:39,840
doesn't mean that all the

525
00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:41,919
all their beings on their planet are are

526
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:43,280
still happy about it

527
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:46,080
you know um but one of the things they

528
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:47,039
changed was that they

529
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,559
they no longer have a monetary system so

530
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:52,640
they did at one time have some kind of

531
00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:54,320
monetary exchange they don't call it

532
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,880
money i

533
00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:56,480
really you know i think it's a little

534
00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:58,640
complicated to understand

535
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:02,160
um but they have more of a barter system

536
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:02,720
now

537
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,679
um where it's more of an equal energy

538
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:06,880
exchange

539
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,080
and so releasing themselves from that

540
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:13,440
that that need to accumulate wealth and

541
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:15,039
material things

542
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,000
completely changed everything you know

543
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,000
it freed people up

544
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:22,799
to do the things that they loved to do

545
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:23,520
it

546
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,320
made people you know have different

547
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,640
motivations for wanting to share their

548
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:30,240
gifts and talents

549
00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:33,760
um you know took away the

550
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:36,880
the desire to accumulate and so

551
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:40,160
people put their energy into more useful

552
00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:41,600
things more helpful things

553
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:43,200
more compassionate things they take care

554
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:44,960
of each other better

555
00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:46,880
and it's very difficult for us to

556
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,640
imagine that you know a world without

557
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:49,600
money

558
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:52,720
but um they do see us heading in that

559
00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,000
direction

560
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:56,400
um they do you know they they don't ever

561
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:58,240
predict the future for us

562
00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,760
but they can have a sense of the

563
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,320
potential for us and they see that

564
00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:05,120
as one of the potentials even though

565
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,880
it's something that we have a hard time

566
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:08,000
imagining you know

567
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,440
how how would that work um but i think

568
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:12,880
that was one of one of the

569
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,600
most profound things that they did but

570
00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:17,200
again it was more about

571
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,679
understanding themselves as that spirit

572
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:21,200
energy you know they brought a sense of

573
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:22,880
spirituality

574
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,159
into their everyday life um

575
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:28,480
and they operate from that place more

576
00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:29,840
now

577
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:32,080
uh and again i i feel like this is one

578
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,120
of the things that

579
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,440
we're starting to shift towards it's

580
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,360
very slow shift

581
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:39,760
but we are starting to be more aware of

582
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,520
ourselves spiritually and

583
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:43,039
i think there's more of an interest in

584
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,039
studying consciousness and

585
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,280
you know quantum physics is is looking

586
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,200
at us differently

587
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,600
um and there is starting to be more

588
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,600
disclosure around

589
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,559
you know ufos and other beings a little

590
00:21:02,149 --> 00:20:58,000
bit more openness around that

591
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,159
so so there is a shift um happening and

592
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:04,000
i think that they've come right at the

593
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:06,159
time where we need that

594
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:08,400
that motivation that that you know that

595
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:09,679
sense of

596
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,679
seeing a light at the end of the tunnel

597
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,679
they actually uh

598
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,360
kind of disappeared for a few months

599
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,360
during 2020

600
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,880
and i wasn't sure if they were coming

601
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:21,679
back i sometimes do

602
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:25,600
live channeling events on online and

603
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,640
at the end of one event

604
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:30,320
i think it was right around the time

605
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:32,240
when the pandemic was starting

606
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,520
i at the end you know i i'm kind of an

607
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:36,640
observer

608
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,280
as well as being you know the channel

609
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:41,520
but i heard them saying goodbye

610
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:45,840
at the end and i felt them leave

611
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,880
and i knew they were gone and i didn't

612
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,400
have any contact with them for several

613
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:51,840
months and i thought maybe they were

614
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:52,799
gone forever

615
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:56,000
i didn't know why but then they they did

616
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:56,880
show up again

617
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:59,600
and um again i think it was a deliberate

618
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,159
thing

619
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,039
it's almost like we had to go through

620
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:04,880
what we were going through

621
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,520
during this pandemic and whatever that's

622
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:12,789
and now you know they're they're coming

623
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,200
back in a little bit of a different way

624
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:18,320
um what i'm doing now with them

625
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:21,679
is i have a facebook group and

626
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:24,960
i have people asking questions and then

627
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:25,280
i

628
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:26,880
channeled the answers to some of those

629
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,679
questions um

630
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,159
i haven't done a live session since they

631
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,520
left last year but

632
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:35,039
you know i may get back into that at

633
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:36,720
some point

634
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,240
okay so are they are they entirely

635
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,240
planet-bound or do they have some sort

636
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,919
of vehicles at least while they're on

637
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:44,880
their surface or

638
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,880
what does the surface even look like if

639
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:49,039
they've given that info to you

640
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,039
um the information they've given me is

641
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:54,000
that their planet is pretty harsh

642
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:57,360
they have double suns they have two

643
00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:00,640
stars that are suns so at certain times

644
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:01,679
of their

645
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,440
their year it's not possible for them to

646
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,559
be on the surface

647
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,760
because it's too intense um so that they

648
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:11,520
seem to have a lot of underground

649
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,590
but then there are other times in the

650
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,000
year where they can come out for short

651
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:19,440
periods of time

652
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,720
and be on the surface it does feel and

653
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:24,080
sometimes when they're talking about

654
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,120
these things i can

655
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,679
i can see them in my mind too while

656
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:28,960
while they're speaking

657
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,600
so it does seem the surface is not very

658
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,440
interesting you know it's kind of

659
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:35,200
barren it's kind of desolate but there

660
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,159
are times where things grow

661
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,200
you know these things do grow um

662
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,440
but their underground dwellings feel

663
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:45,200
very communal

664
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,240
so you know they have they live in

665
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:51,279
kind of a groups you know family groups

666
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:52,320
or whatever

667
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,760
um they seem to be much more

668
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:58,240
you know i don't know what other word to

669
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:59,840
use other than communal you know they

670
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,240
they

671
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,559
assist with the raising of children and

672
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,159
they work together

673
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:07,360
in in these dwellings under underground

674
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,200
um and they they seem to have devised

675
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:12,640
ways to grow

676
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:15,679
their own food and and develop different

677
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,559
plant life

678
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:19,440
that that helps them to survive to

679
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:19,919
survive

680
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:23,919
underground um they talk about mostly

681
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:26,880
plants that that they eat i'm not sure

682
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,960
if they ever mentioned

683
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,640
any of any of the things that they eat

684
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:32,320
but mostly it seems to be plants that

685
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,960
they

686
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:35,039
turn into lots of different kinds of

687
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:36,400
food like we do

688
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,799
um but i think one of the reasons that

689
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,159
they're so drawn to us is be

690
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,159
and and they mention it a lot said how

691
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,159
beautiful our planet is

692
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,559
you know the the huge diversity of life

693
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,480
they don't have that there

694
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,440
you know they they don't have this the

695
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:53,600
huge diversity of plant life and animal

696
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:54,000
life

697
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:57,279
and and they're they're just amazed by

698
00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:58,240
it

699
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:02,480
what we have here

700
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:06,240
yeah so i guess it balances itself out

701
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,120
by

702
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,600
what everyone on on their planet doing

703
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:11,600
everything they can that's best suited

704
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,640
to their skills

705
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,400
and just offering it up and then

706
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,480
everyone else is doing the same thing so

707
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,320
they kind of make it work in that way am

708
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:19,919
i understanding that correctly

709
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,279
yeah it seems to be that um somehow

710
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,039
there is some kind of uh

711
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:28,159
checks and balances you know so um

712
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,559
you know you you provide a service or a

713
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,000
product for someone and

714
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,919
and there's some kind of record kept

715
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:35,520
that that person now

716
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:38,640
needs to owe that back in some way so

717
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,600
um so it's you know whatever that person

718
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,360
is good at like said you know whatever

719
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:44,960
their skills their gifts their talents

720
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:45,600
are

721
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,799
that's what they provide and then that

722
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,400
helps them to then

723
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,799
get what they need so it's a barter

724
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:54,240
system for the most part

725
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:55,840
i think it's a little more complicated

726
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,080
than that but um

727
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,919
it you know i think they simplify some

728
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,600
of these things so that i can understand

729
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,200
them and communicate them

730
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:06,960
you know uh sometimes i feel like um

731
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:10,080
you know our our thinking and our

732
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,360
words our language is limited

733
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:16,000
so they kind of simplify things so that

734
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:17,360
because it's still coming through my

735
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:17,840
brain

736
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,559
understand it i'm not going to be able

737
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,679
to say it

738
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,480
um so sometimes i think it's it's more

739
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:26,080
complicated and i feel that it's more

740
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,440
complicated than what

741
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,520
they're giving me but this is the best

742
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,080
way they can describe it

743
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,720
i was just you were wondering because

744
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:36,640
you know by having a

745
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,760
more of a detailed explanation anyone

746
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:41,039
watching could

747
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,080
could potentially have their

748
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:44,320
imaginations per you know be spurred and

749
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:45,919
maybe try to seek something like that

750
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,880
because i know

751
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,400
um i'm sure you're familiar with you

752
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,840
know the different communes that were

753
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,080
started in the 60s and 70s and

754
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,919
and i know some have tried to make it

755
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:55,919
work some didn't last as long but i

756
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,480
guess

757
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:58,720
that's also part of you know how much

758
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,159
baggage we all bring to the

759
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:02,480
community i guess for lack of a better

760
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:03,200
word

761
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,880
yeah and i think you know we're so

762
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:07,200
influenced by our culture

763
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,760
and what's expected of us and i don't

764
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,679
think we have any idea of how

765
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,520
how much we're influenced by that you

766
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:15,600
know we might think that we can

767
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:18,399
live off the land and you know and and

768
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:19,039
live like

769
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,399
the hippies in the communes but we're

770
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:24,640
you know we're influenced that that's

771
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,200
that we should want something more

772
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:30,159
you know we're so pushed into this idea

773
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,960
of

774
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,120
acquiring more and accumulating wealth

775
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,360
and accumulating material things and

776
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,159
it's very hard to to detach ourselves

777
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:39,919
from those expectations

778
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,360
from our culture and our society

779
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,440
so you know it again it wasn't easy for

780
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:47,039
them because i think they had some of

781
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:47,679
those

782
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,120
similar situations there where

783
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,679
things were being you know governed by

784
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:54,720
greed

785
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,760
and and you know

786
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,840
wealth and accumulation in whatever way

787
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,310
so they really had to change their whole

788
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,640
mindset in the way that they lived

789
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,440
and it was huge you know it was not a

790
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:11,760
simple thing to do

791
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,960
well it seems like sometimes some of us

792
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,240
kind of fall into

793
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,720
a new new rhythm or a new change of

794
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:19,919
something new happening

795
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,640
sometimes we're pushed into it and um

796
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,520
you know it's

797
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,679
i don't know it's it's i i can see where

798
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:27,279
it would be difficult having

799
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,480
all of us trying to kind of

800
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,480
do things together to say okay let's

801
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,159
let's go this direction because then

802
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,080
there's so many different interests

803
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:38,399
so many different fears you know because

804
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,440
of the sudden

805
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:41,919
you know if you if you told someone jump

806
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,720
off this cliff

807
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,320
trust me you're gonna be okay it's gonna

808
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:46,640
be so beneficial but it's to them it's

809
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,000
all they see it's that cliff

810
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,919
i'm gonna fall and die what i was saying

811
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,840
you know we kind of feel that way where

812
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:52,720
it's just

813
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:56,880
uh um it's this uh debilitating fear

814
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,840
to change because if all of the sudden

815
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,640
can you trust

816
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,240
your neighbor that okay well i did

817
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:04,000
something for you i didn't charge you

818
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,880
will you do

819
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:07,120
something for me now when i need it and

820
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,640
then to expand that to

821
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:11,279
two three four five people and so on and

822
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,000
then to expand

823
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,559
to a community um i'm just kind of as

824
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,320
i'm talking trying to break it down how

825
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,080
it could potentially work here

826
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,760
because otherwise people would say i

827
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,360
just want to go to work get my paycheck

828
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:23,679
and i'll be okay

829
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,960
well again it's it's not just about

830
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:28,880
changing what we do it's changing how we

831
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,919
think

832
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,080
it's expanding our consciousness to see

833
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,679
the bigger picture

834
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,039
you know and we're not used to that

835
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,120
we're used to having to just

836
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,360
do what has to be done you know we're

837
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,679
running that hamster wheel all the time

838
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,520
of what's expected of us and how we're

839
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,559
going to make money and how we're going

840
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,399
to pay our bills and

841
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,720
you know it we don't have much time for

842
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:51,600
it to expand our consciousness you know

843
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:54,640
um so it it that

844
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,919
had to be the foundation of all the

845
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,440
other change

846
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:01,840
they had to be able to see themselves as

847
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,679
more than just these physical beings

848
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:04,960
they had to see that the

849
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:07,840
results of what they were wanting to do

850
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,640
were

851
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,520
part of a bigger picture that it was

852
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:13,440
also a sense of them

853
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:16,399
being more aware of themselves as spirit

854
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:16,880
beings

855
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:24,080
and so that the difficulties that you've

856
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,360
just talked about

857
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:28,320
can only be overcome by seeing the

858
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:29,360
bigger picture and

859
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,799
saying we're you know we're all in this

860
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,960
together we're all connected we're all

861
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:33,919
the same

862
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,559
on a spiritual level and we're all

863
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:39,120
individuals who can contribute

864
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,919
in a very powerful meaningful way you

865
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,360
know and so having that feeling of

866
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,640
cooperation

867
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,960
from a place of compassion you know it

868
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,880
has to come from that place

869
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:50,240
as soon as it starts to come into the

870
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:53,520
ego you know this kind of self-ang

871
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:56,080
aggrandizing place it's not going to

872
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,039
work

873
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,240
you know um so it's it's

874
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,320
it's not abolishing the ego we have to

875
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,880
be individuals but it's seeing it as

876
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,559
a gift and something that we can

877
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,640
contribute as an individual

878
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,559
so it's just that that you know expanded

879
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,240
consciousness has to

880
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,279
has to happen first um

881
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,279
and and it's difficult to get people to

882
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:19,039
that place

883
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,240
because we are so caught up in what we

884
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:24,559
have to do to survive

885
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,799
right so do they generally kind of tell

886
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:31,360
you about the struggle that they went

887
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,399
through and

888
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,399
and then have you kind of listened to

889
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:35,919
the story and relate

890
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:38,240
and then have you kind of pick up on

891
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:40,480
what to do or do they specifically say

892
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,720
okay you need you know if you want to

893
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,399
get out of this situation

894
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:46,720
whether individually or overall on the

895
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:47,440
planet

896
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:50,240
do a b c or d or how do they how do they

897
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,200
go about

898
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,559
doing that yeah they actually haven't

899
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,480
spent a lot of time on their story they

900
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,720
don't want to make it all about them

901
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:01,120
you know when the questions have been

902
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:02,559
raised about them

903
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,159
they will generally answer but

904
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,799
they're more interested in helping us to

905
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,559
get a different perspective on what

906
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,320
we're experiencing

907
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,720
you know and so you know a lot of mike's

908
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,559
questions were geared

909
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,240
less about them he did have questions

910
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:20,960
about them but it's more about

911
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,600
what you know what frank is able to

912
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:25,120
perceive

913
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,159
that we can't about our situation

914
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,640
here and the the challenges and the

915
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:32,320
issues that we face

916
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,320
both as a collective and as individuals

917
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:39,600
um so yes there are some things like you

918
00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:40,000
know

919
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,919
i'm experiencing this in my own life

920
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:43,840
some people ask very personal questions

921
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,480
you know

922
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,200
how do i how can i best deal with this

923
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,200
conflict or this struggle or how can i

924
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,440
think differently about this

925
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:54,640
um and then some people also ask more

926
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:57,440
global questions you know how to how do

927
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,000
we

928
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,039
shift the consciousness around

929
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:04,720
politics and you know world view

930
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,159
um so they answer

931
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:10,000
they're very forthright they're very to

932
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:11,200
the point if

933
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:12,559
if there's something they can't answer

934
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,039
they will say they can't answer

935
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:18,080
um again it's not

936
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:21,279
it's it's not about them they don't want

937
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,640
to make it about them

938
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,399
they want to give us just enough about

939
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:25,919
them so that we can

940
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,200
understand that they have empathy for us

941
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,840
right so it's more about the message

942
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:34,480
than

943
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,679
the messenger um so do

944
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:42,399
do they kind of uh just kind of go about

945
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:44,320
their own plan or what they feel like

946
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:45,120
they need to

947
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,399
to do or say or do they kind of um

948
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:51,279
collaborate with with other beings that

949
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:53,039
they might be aware of that that are

950
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:53,919
also here

951
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,559
or what is their point of view i mean so

952
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,440
a lot of us

953
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,000
here is the understanding that there's a

954
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:01,919
lot of different beings visiting

955
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:04,960
earth is that did they talk about that

956
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,679
from their point of view at all

957
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,839
well as far as what they give to me i

958
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:11,280
think it's just from them

959
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:14,320
so there's what they've said is that

960
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,440
there's eight

961
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,720
beings and um i do

962
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,879
feel sometimes while i'm channeling i

963
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:22,480
sometimes feel a shift like

964
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,079
there's a different one speaking you

965
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,839
know but sometimes it just feels like

966
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,440
there's one that's speaking

967
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:29,280
but i think they're collaborative within

968
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,720
that group

969
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,119
you know and and yes they have talked

970
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:34,960
about there being

971
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:37,839
other beings that have um and continue

972
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:38,800
to visit us

973
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:41,679
in a physical way um they've talked

974
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:42,560
about

975
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,159
how they're you know huge variety of

976
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:48,320
different forms of consciousness among

977
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:49,679
the beings

978
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,879
in in the universe um

979
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,800
again they're they're solely talking

980
00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:56,159
about

981
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:59,200
this dimensional space they also say you

982
00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,920
know there's

983
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,400
the whole you know lots of other

984
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,240
dimensional spaces as well but

985
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:06,400
they're not from a different dimensional

986
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,440
space they're from

987
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:10,400
this one so they're talking about beings

988
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:11,200
within our

989
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:14,839
own three you know 3d universe here

990
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,480
um and they they have talked about how

991
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,680
some of them while they are more

992
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,280
advanced

993
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:26,560
uh in their intellect they may not be

994
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,480
more advanced emotionally so

995
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,000
because the question has been raised

996
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,400
about people have been abducted and

997
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:36,400
not had very pleasant experiences with

998
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:37,520
that

999
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,640
and what they've said was those beings

1000
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,839
they they don't understand that that's

1001
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,599
upsetting they don't have that

1002
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,599
that empathy it's just not part of who

1003
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,880
they are they're not trying to hurt

1004
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:49,760
anybody

1005
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,589
did they talk about well if

1006
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,400
if anyone that's been in any any amount

1007
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,520
of time into this

1008
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:04,480
you know the ufo phenomena immediately

1009
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,280
is aware of

1010
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,119
and knows about the abduction stories as

1011
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:09,119
you mentioned but

1012
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,800
recently and i know within just for me

1013
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,480
in the past five six years

1014
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,720
it's been a lot more more information

1015
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,640
coming out and especially dolores cannon

1016
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,320
was talking about this that

1017
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,640
there is do they talk about this

1018
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:23,760
potential

1019
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,839
uh agreement and sometimes even

1020
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,119
pre-birth agreement

1021
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,520
for this to happen or what do you know

1022
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,200
about this if you know anything at all

1023
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,440
regarding that and if you don't wouldn't

1024
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:34,880
mind sharing

1025
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:38,079
regarding visitations and regarding to

1026
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:39,680
where from our point of view

1027
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,160
it would look at an abduction and it's

1028
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,240
upsetting and horrible and sometimes the

1029
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,000
miscommunication what's happening

1030
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:48,240
while this is occurring but then on a

1031
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:49,760
different level that there's

1032
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,960
an agreement between them

1033
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:54,960
and whatever human to happen to deal

1034
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,240
with at that time

1035
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,720
do you know anything about that we

1036
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,400
haven't had that conversation i don't

1037
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:02,240
remember anybody ever asking that

1038
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:03,280
question and um

1039
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,640
or them really focusing on that i think

1040
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,240
the the only thing that i've gotten is

1041
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,800
what i just shared with the idea that

1042
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:12,960
it when there are unpleasant experiences

1043
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,200
that it is a form of being that just

1044
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,119
you know they're almost like scientists

1045
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,640
that come here who

1046
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:20,720
just want to study us that's very

1047
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,680
clinical

1048
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:23,119
yeah so they're not really thinking of

1049
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,560
us as emotional beings because they

1050
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:26,640
don't have that level of emotion

1051
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,839
um but but they do also you know

1052
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:34,079
there is a spiritual aspect to them

1053
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,119
where they do

1054
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,720
because they are connecting in a form of

1055
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:40,880
higher consciousness they're also

1056
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:43,520
much more spiritually advanced so there

1057
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,640
is an aspect of

1058
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,160
what you're talking about this sense

1059
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:47,760
that um

1060
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,800
we we have kind of

1061
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,119
laid the plans for certain events and

1062
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:55,280
experiences in our lives

1063
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:58,960
um for the potential they hold

1064
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:01,760
in the evolution of our own soul so it

1065
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,400
could be

1066
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,800
that you know when we when we were in

1067
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:05,520
spirit form

1068
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,040
we decided to incarnate here

1069
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,359
we thought well let's see how i respond

1070
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:13,440
to an alien abduction

1071
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:16,839
you know let's see what that offers me

1072
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,800
um you know as as mike dooley

1073
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,920
has talked about you know i don't

1074
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:23,680
believe in soul contracts but i do

1075
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,040
believe that

1076
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:27,680
we make choices for the some of the

1077
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,320
experiences that we want to have here

1078
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:32,000
because our soul wants to have that

1079
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,440
experience so

1080
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,000
i i'm sure that kind of experience is no

1081
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:37,839
different from any other

1082
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:41,200
you know so i know um often people

1083
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:41,839
always would

1084
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,720
want to know how do you how does one get

1085
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:46,400
get into channeling how does one get

1086
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,119
started

1087
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,880
i know personally i it's kind of like

1088
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,480
for me it's always been very simple i

1089
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,000
mean if you wanted

1090
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,240
to be a runner then go out and run you

1091
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,000
know if you want to

1092
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,680
you know be a painted and pick up a

1093
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:01,359
brush and start painting that sort of

1094
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:01,920
thing is

1095
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,400
is there a similar process that you

1096
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,320
would recommend to somebody who wants to

1097
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:08,400
get into channeling

1098
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,680
well as i said you know it wasn't

1099
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,520
something that i had on my radar

1100
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:14,640
in my in my practices you know i i had

1101
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:15,119
been

1102
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:17,200
a practicing psychic medium so i was

1103
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:19,920
doing psychic and mediumship readings

1104
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,720
so you know i already had some practices

1105
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:23,599
of

1106
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:27,359
relaxation meditation um

1107
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,560
you know just intention setting

1108
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:33,680
um i had a very very strong

1109
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:36,800
intention to only connect with beings in

1110
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,359
the light

1111
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,760
only connect with positive energy never

1112
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,839
had a negative experience i think it's

1113
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:43,359
very important

1114
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,119
um you never want to go into

1115
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,240
any of this work with fear you know and

1116
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,839
so it's really important that you deal

1117
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:53,440
with any fear you have

1118
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:57,440
or don't do it because i believe that a

1119
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,000
lot of

1120
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:00,320
the negative experiences that people

1121
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:01,839
have

1122
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,000
experiences but they're being

1123
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:09,280
filtered through fear you know our brain

1124
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,880
is making sense of everything that

1125
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:12,079
happens to us

1126
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,599
unusual

1127
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:18,240
your brain goes into a place of fear

1128
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,920
that experience is going to come through

1129
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,000
as a negative one

1130
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,520
it's like if you're walking down a drop

1131
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:25,599
street and you're

1132
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:29,040
nervous and you're on edge and a cat

1133
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,720
runs in front of you you might jump and

1134
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:32,319
scream because you think something

1135
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:35,440
bad is happening so along with our state

1136
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:35,839
of

1137
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,079
basically saying so long with the intel

1138
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:39,359
intention it would be

1139
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,119
basically to be in a state of relaxation

1140
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:46,400
relaxation openness also

1141
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,000
again and clear intention about what

1142
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,400
what your why are you doing this what is

1143
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,440
it that you want

1144
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,839
from this so we would come through then

1145
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,040
as some sort of

1146
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,359
just like a urge to do something

1147
00:41:01,349 --> 00:41:00,800
different that doesn't seem like

1148
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,359
yourself

1149
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:03,119
is that how you know that this possibly

1150
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,400
channeled or

1151
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,880
what does it feel like well since i had

1152
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:08,640
been doing the psychic and mediumship

1153
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,520
work i

1154
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:11,760
knew the difference between my own

1155
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,079
thoughts and something coming in

1156
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,960
and it's hard to describe our language

1157
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,560
you know doesn't have the words for that

1158
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:20,160
but it is just a feeling

1159
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:23,440
that you know this isn't coming from my

1160
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,720
normal thinking mind this is coming from

1161
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,560
a different place it feels like i'm

1162
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,040
receiving it there's a sense that it is

1163
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,040
coming from somewhere else

1164
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,160
um and it it

1165
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:38,160
you know it's hard to describe it in any

1166
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:39,280
other way

1167
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:42,640
so when i like i said when i started

1168
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:46,400
the channeling they gave me instructions

1169
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,599
you know my sister and i had done the

1170
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:49,359
ouija board and they said okay we want

1171
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:49,680
to

1172
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,880
you know and this was just their you

1173
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,079
know how i was going to channel with

1174
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:59,920
them so i don't know this is a universal

1175
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,720
thing but

1176
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,800
they said for me to sit at dusk as the

1177
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,119
sun was going down with the candle

1178
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:08,160
and a paper and a pen

1179
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,520
and just relax um

1180
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,760
and and be open to the experience so i

1181
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,480
did because i did exactly what they said

1182
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,640
and as i said i just started to get a

1183
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:20,800
word and then a word and a word

1184
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,079
and again it's a very different sense

1185
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,319
of that it's clearly coming from

1186
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:28,079
somewhere else because it's not

1187
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,119
my thought with an idea that i want to

1188
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,800
now put on paper

1189
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:35,200
it was just taking each word and writing

1190
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:36,480
it down and then looking at it and

1191
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,119
saying oh

1192
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,280
that's a sentence oh that makes sense

1193
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,119
you know

1194
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,520
the problem was doing it by hand and now

1195
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:45,440
they did instruct me to do it by hand

1196
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,240
first with a pen

1197
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,520
and paper was that whenever i do any of

1198
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,960
this work i have my eyes closed because

1199
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,160
it helps me to focus

1200
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,720
inward you know i'm not distracted by

1201
00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:55,920
what i'm seeing

1202
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:58,079
so because sometimes my handwriting was

1203
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,760
illegible

1204
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,839
you know i couldn't figure out some of

1205
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:02,960
the words and so

1206
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,160
eventually i graduated to a keyboard

1207
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:09,119
on the computer so at least if i have a

1208
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,240
typo i can still

1209
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,680
read what it was right um but it's the

1210
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,560
same practice

1211
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:17,760
it's just you know i'm getting the words

1212
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:20,960
and i'm and i'm just transcribing them

1213
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,960
do you feel more energy or different

1214
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,319
kind of energy or is it

1215
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,240
are you just still being yourself with

1216
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:27,839
just these uh intense

1217
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:32,160
thoughts so when frank wants to come in

1218
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,520
i get a very physical sensation of

1219
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,680
pressure on my right arm it's as though

1220
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:38,960
somebody has their hand

1221
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,640
on my arm and i feel them come in from

1222
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,440
the right

1223
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:45,520
it's just a sense of energy coming in

1224
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:46,640
from the right

1225
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,000
and my energy moves to the left

1226
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,359
so i don't i don't go into a typical

1227
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,760
idea of trance where i'm not conscious

1228
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:57,200
of what's going on

1229
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,400
i feel like i'm right here

1230
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,960
kind of just a little bit you know

1231
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,319
detached

1232
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:06,400
but i'm conscious and i'm aware of

1233
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:07,520
what's going on

1234
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,040
i'm kind of witnessing it you know

1235
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,440
again sometimes when they're talking i'm

1236
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:15,280
seeing things in my mind that they're

1237
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:16,240
describing

1238
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:19,520
so i'm still engaged in the process

1239
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:22,560
but you know they there is a

1240
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,599
whole different sense of energy the

1241
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,640
the way that i speak changes my body

1242
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,760
movements change

1243
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:31,440
i look a little strange when i'm

1244
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:32,800
channeling

1245
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,520
um there are some youtube videos if

1246
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,000
anybody wants to look them up to see

1247
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,240
what i look like when i'm channeling i

1248
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,920
don't ever watch myself

1249
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,839
i don't watch the videos it's very

1250
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,319
uncomfortable um

1251
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,160
but it's definitely people who have

1252
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,079
witnessed it know that it's definitely

1253
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:52,720
not me it's just a very different

1254
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:55,119
personality coming through

1255
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,359
um and then when they exit

1256
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,800
you know there's this feeling of coming

1257
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,119
back and in the beginning when i first

1258
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,280
started doing it the verbal channeling

1259
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,400
i it took me a long time to recover

1260
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,000
so i would have to sit for at least a

1261
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,400
half hour just to come back

1262
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,400
it doesn't take as long anymore but i

1263
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,319
still i'm still a little

1264
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,119
off for a few minutes until i'm like

1265
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,680
fully back

1266
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,440
so there have been like i said before

1267
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,200
there are people who have witnessed this

1268
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:27,119
who have seen things and experienced

1269
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,240
their energy

1270
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,550
if there are sensitive people in the

1271
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,640
audience they can feel

1272
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,960
they're because they have very strange

1273
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,280
and unusual and powerful energy

1274
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:41,200
so their people have sensed that and

1275
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,079
felt it in different ways

1276
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:46,000
so have they always just a channeled of

1277
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,119
something that can be

1278
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,839
done right here right now do they have

1279
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:50,480
any

1280
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:53,200
uh kind of prophetic ability to see

1281
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:53,760
what's

1282
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:58,000
where they might say hey

1283
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,920
if you don't change what you're doing

1284
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,119
this could occur

1285
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:03,680
has anything like that happen oh yeah i

1286
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:04,640
mean in that way

1287
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:07,280
as far as you know again basing it on

1288
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,240
their experience

1289
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,480
it's not it's not really prophetic or

1290
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,920
predictive

1291
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,920
you know they don't claim to be psychic

1292
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,240
and and fortune tellers they don't

1293
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,119
they will avoid questions that will say

1294
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:21,040
what is going to happen

1295
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,319
you know they'll say well here's the

1296
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,800
potential or this is what could happen

1297
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,960
this is what we've experienced you know

1298
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,200
so you know in that way

1299
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,200
they are you know they have that sense

1300
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,720
of looking forward

1301
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,400
but they will never say well this is

1302
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:36,160
what's going to happen um

1303
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:39,920
in in a in a prophetic way

1304
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:43,440
okay so uh tracy is there anything else

1305
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,319
you would like to

1306
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,720
discuss and and cover that i might not

1307
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,040
know to ask you

1308
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:51,760
well i think one of the one of the

1309
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,560
things about

1310
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,520
their appearance here you know it's a

1311
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,079
very challenging concept

1312
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,119
for people to accept that these are

1313
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,640
alien beings

1314
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,440
being channeled and that they're

1315
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:07,839
communicating with us

1316
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:10,960
um and i'm sure you've discussed this a

1317
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:11,440
lot in

1318
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:14,560
in your show but it's it really is a

1319
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,440
shame that

1320
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:18,000
we are so close-minded to that idea that

1321
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:18,640
that

1322
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:21,760
there's so much fear and ridicule

1323
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:25,680
around the idea of other beings

1324
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,240
you know because i think they i really

1325
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:30,079
feel like the ones that are visiting

1326
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:31,920
whether through channeling whether

1327
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,720
through a physical visitation

1328
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,440
um i i think they want to help us you

1329
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,440
know and i i think that there's some

1330
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,839
really beautiful spiritual aspect to

1331
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,920
their being here

1332
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,680
that if we would open our minds to it

1333
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:48,079
and stop making fun of it you know and

1334
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,520
stop seeing it as

1335
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,680
something to ridicule or make fun of or

1336
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,520
you know think that people have these

1337
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,520
experiences are crazy

1338
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,520
um that it could really help us it could

1339
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:59,359
help us shift our consciousness it could

1340
00:48:03,030 --> 00:47:59,839
help us

1341
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:03,040
feel loved and supported by other beings

1342
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:03,760
you know

1343
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,720
i think they have a lot to offer us and

1344
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:07,839
it's a shame that

1345
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,559
our culture supports the idea that this

1346
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:12,800
is just nonsense

1347
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,160
um i hope that part of the shift that

1348
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,920
we're experiencing is taking us to the

1349
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:19,680
place where we can be more open-minded

1350
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:20,000
about

1351
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,440
it well i think um i don't know

1352
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,040
i don't know if you'll agree i think

1353
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:27,119
that you know a lot of times

1354
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:29,839
talking about taking responsibility by

1355
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:30,480
you doing

1356
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,520
what you do and years back when i

1357
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,640
started doing this

1358
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,800
it's it's almost like it is creating

1359
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,800
these different communities to where

1360
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,359
the way you and i talk maybe i don't

1361
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,119
know a normal person would just be like

1362
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,960
what in the world are they talking about

1363
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:45,680
right now

1364
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,040
you know and so um boris and for

1365
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,240
for my immediate family and and

1366
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,240
um you know maybe for you as well and

1367
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,760
your friends you know to

1368
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,359
this is normal you know this is

1369
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,880
something that we experience all the

1370
00:49:02,309 --> 00:48:59,839
time all these

1371
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,319
metaphysical things ghosts aliens all

1372
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,520
these energies

1373
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,599
shifts and all of that and so i'm

1374
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,960
thinking maybe by

1375
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:09,119
just kind of being yourself and just

1376
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:10,720
keep living your life the way you live

1377
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:11,359
it that

1378
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,800
you just kind of keep expanding your

1379
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,480
bubble having more and more people

1380
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,559
around you in that way and maybe

1381
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,400
that way there'll be enough communities

1382
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,720
kind of happening to where all the

1383
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,760
sudden you realize

1384
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,280
well now it's a large part of your

1385
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,920
country that talks and thinks this way

1386
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,440
i don't know what do you think about

1387
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,000
yeah i i love that idea yeah

1388
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,960
and actually it's you know i'm the one

1389
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:34,800
who's disappointed in the

1390
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:38,079
in in the small audience that we get you

1391
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,559
know

1392
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:40,720
i'm the one who gets disappointed that i

1393
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,599
that we haven't

1394
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:43,440
been able to reach more people frank is

1395
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:45,520
not disappointed by that you know

1396
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,119
they will say to me you know that you

1397
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,160
don't it doesn't matter how many people

1398
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,680
were reaching because

1399
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,920
you have no idea of the ripple effect

1400
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,240
that this information is having

1401
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,520
you know and so you reach five people

1402
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,960
you know and they're walking around with

1403
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,800
that energy and they're talking about it

1404
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:04,000
and it's shifting the way they're

1405
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,200
thinking

1406
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:07,200
that's how you create change you know

1407
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:09,200
it's not necessarily the thousands and

1408
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,559
thousands of people who are coming to

1409
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:12,319
these events you know it's

1410
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,680
it but again for me it's disappointing

1411
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,200
and frustrating because

1412
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,880
because that's my ego you know it's not

1413
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:20,480
that i want to be famous since i want to

1414
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,960
get

1415
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,440
the the word out there and the you know

1416
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:24,800
the beautiful things that they have to

1417
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,520
say

1418
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,839
i i wish that more people would be open

1419
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:28,800
to it but

1420
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:31,440
right i just i think i think we all want

1421
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,480
to be comfortable

1422
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,720
because i know especially you know when

1423
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:37,520
i'm amongst other crowds and

1424
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,280
uh they go into a lot of details about

1425
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,359
the latest score about a sport i'm just

1426
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,800
using something very general it's such

1427
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,160
an overused cliche

1428
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:49,200
but it happens all the time it's always

1429
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,880
weather sports and you know house family

1430
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,400
which is fine there's nothing wrong with

1431
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,559
that but i just noticed for me

1432
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,119
personally however different world it is

1433
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,040
because already how i've been living

1434
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,559
and at least that's kind of like i use

1435
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,319
that as a measurement of how much i've

1436
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:05,760
changed because you don't notice it when

1437
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,359
you live your life you just live it

1438
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,520
you don't really have a measure going ah

1439
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,119
today i've changed 50

1440
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,880
more than i did yesterday you know and

1441
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,240
the next day i changed

1442
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,200
you know and so on and so that's how i

1443
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,960
kind of measure to go like i don't know

1444
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,760
how much

1445
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,599
more i can be around people like that

1446
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,000
because in a not in a pushy way

1447
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,079
but somehow my my other friends that are

1448
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,680
kind of also right there on the verge

1449
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,599
always made fun of me too they're like

1450
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,839
how is it that somehow if we're always

1451
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,680
going to party we're playing cards and

1452
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:35,280
you managed to turn this conversation

1453
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,000
about aliens

1454
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,119
visiting from other planets you know and

1455
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:40,240
i'm just like well

1456
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,000
it wouldn't have gone anywhere if you

1457
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,000
and you and you and you haven't kept

1458
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,359
asking me questions

1459
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:47,040
you know that's how it turned into

1460
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,359
otherwise you would have just shut me

1461
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,119
down and we would have went on with our

1462
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:52,720
card game you know so

1463
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,720
anyway being an introvert you know i

1464
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:58,559
don't deal with small talk very well

1465
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,680
i was pretty socially awkward myself and

1466
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,000
uh but i can talk about this stuff for

1467
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,839
for hours and in front of as many people

1468
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:06,960
as you want to put in front of me

1469
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,599
you know all right um but forget about

1470
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:11,359
small talk in a social situation

1471
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:17,109
well tracy well uh thank you thank you

1472
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,079
very much for for

1473
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,000
being on um if there's something else

1474
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,680
you would like to tell me about we can

1475
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,880
keep going um

1476
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:25,680
otherwise i really um sometimes i just

1477
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,800
don't know

1478
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,640
you know other other than covering the

1479
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:29,920
bigger pictures

1480
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,800
you know because i always want to go uh

1481
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,000
picture-wise

1482
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,480
overall in general generalities to cover

1483
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,520
those so that

1484
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:39,920
it covers a vast amount of audience that

1485
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,680
could potentially be watching this

1486
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,520
and then you know that's when i would

1487
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,359
recommend them then get in your book

1488
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,119
or watching more going to your website

1489
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,200
and watching you more to get the

1490
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,640
nitty gritty details that they're

1491
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,400
searching you know

1492
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,280
because the first book actually gives

1493
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,640
more information about

1494
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,480
frank and you know so if you're

1495
00:53:01,270 --> 00:53:00,640
interested in learning a little bit more

1496
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:01,280
about them

1497
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,880
it's more of an introduction you know

1498
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,559
because this was their first book

1499
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,480
and even in the in the introduction of

1500
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,400
this book is how they actually first

1501
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,680
came about

1502
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:12,400
um but then this book with mike dooley

1503
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:14,000
gets a little deeper into what they want

1504
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,800
to say to us

1505
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:17,200
and so this is more question and answer

1506
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,040
divided by different topics

1507
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:21,280
um so this gets more deep goes more

1508
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:23,040
deeply into

1509
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,480
how they want to help us so you know

1510
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:28,800
if if people are interested in finding

1511
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:30,079
out more about frank start with the

1512
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,960
first one

1513
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,720
but if you just want to dive right into

1514
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,359
the question and answers with mike

1515
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,640
then then it's this one well as always

1516
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,119
i will have tracy's link and link to the

1517
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:43,040
books in the description below

1518
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:46,000
and uh so please check it out find out

1519
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,599
whatever you would like to find out

1520
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,440
and tracy thank you again i really

1521
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,200
appreciate it and i hope we can

1522
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,680
maybe do this again sometime absolutely